Sunday, September 10, 2006

Stephen Harper's Senate Reform

It is not too often I have anything good to say about Stephen Harper, but I do applaud him for looking into senate reform. Although my ideas for senate reform are probably much different than his, I do believe the status quo is unacceptable. I also applaud Jack Austin's efforts to see that Western Canada has more seats in the senate and support Stephane Dion's idea of 6-8 year limits for senators. I however, am disappointed some Liberals have condemned senate reform as bad since it is too American, because we need a Liberal dominated senate to block Tory legislation when Canadians accidentally elect a Tory government, or because it will make it harder to make government larger (I by the way believe government needs to be smaller not larger). I am totally against the idea of either blindly supporting or blindly opposing an idea simply because it is American, instead we should look at each issue on a case by case basis. Leave the blind Pro-Americanism to the Tories and blind Anti-Americanism to the NDP. I also am a believer in democracy and whether I agree or disagree with a party, I think if a party runs on a certain platform and is elected, they should be able to implement it. If voters dislike it, they can turf them at the next election.

My preference for senate reform is to simply abolish the senate or at the very least make it only an advisory board with no powers since they do some good reports. Our provincial legislatures function just fine without an upper house so why do we need one federally. And for those who comment we need it for regional balance, I would like to point out that just as a person in St. John's has different interests than a person in Vancouver, a person in Fort St. John also has different interests than a person in Vancouver, which is why we have constituent representatives to represent them. However, if we must have an elected senate, I propose we adopt the Australian as opposed to American model. Under the Australian model senators are elected by proportional representation so the House of Commons would be elected the same way it is now, but the senate would be elected based on proportional representation. This would achieve many of the goals of a Triple E senate since this would mean Toronto would have Tory senators and Alberta would have Liberal senators therefore any policy that unfairly targeted one region would likely run into opposition in the caucus. At the same time this would avoid the idea of some votes being worth more than others. Under a triple E senate, a voter in Prince Edward Island's vote is worth 100x as much as a voter from Ontario, which I see as undemocratic in a representative democracy. I realize the dangers here is we would have consistent minority governments, but I believe our problem with minority governments goes more to the attitude of the parties than it does to them being dysfunctional. In Germany, they have had stable coalitions for many years and there isn't the same adversarial attitude between parties as there is here in Canada. In fact opposing parties will often co-operate for the good of the nation rather than just blindly opposing their opponent to score cheap political points. However, I am not so optimistic that either the Tories or Liberals would ever be willing to work together for the good of the country.

Finally any senate reform would involve constitutional changes, which can be quite messy. I believe the solution to this is any senate reform should be put to a national referendum whereby it would require 50% + 1 support in 7 of the 10 provinces with at least 50% of the population, thereby bypassing the messy negotiations, but still ensuring all regions are heard. I also believe the current distribution of seats is totally unfair. I think Paul Martin was right when he said British Columbia should have more seats than New Brunswick and therefore believe electing senators under the current distribution, would make Western Alienation worse, not better since the West is even more under-represented in the Senate than House of Commons.

4 Comments:

Blogger Monkey Loves to Fight said...

Interesting point, I guess my problem is we are a democracy and whenever you allow decisions to be made by an un-elected group you are essentially saying Canadians cannot be trusted to vote correctly. At the provincial level, I agree sometimes governments rush bills through, but that is why we have elections every four years. I should also point out the United Kingdom is the only other democracy besides Canada to have an unelected upper house. I am not suggesting all opponents of senate reform want it for specious reasons, but some do. As for the PEI case, my objection here is while it is important to have all regions represented, I believe in the idea of every vote being equal or at least close to equal, if it is twice as much that is okay, but not 100 or even 10 times.

As for referendums, I generally disagree with the idea of them however on constitutional changes I believe they are appropriate just as there was one on the Charlottetown Accord and Quebec separation. I don't think there should be referendums though on monetary bills or on minority rights.

9:43 PM  
Blogger Monkey Loves to Fight said...

I should note Ed King, my preference is actually to abolish the senate completely, rather than have an elected one. This would then avoid the problem of gridlock which can happen when you have an elected senate unless the lower house can override it as some countries like Spain allow (SSM was defeated in the upper house, but overriden by the lower house).

The cabinet in the United States is almost entirely unelected. The man who prepares the budgets is a political appointee, as are the secretaries responsible for foreign affairs, defense, etc. Arguably, these people are responsible for making much more important decisions than a single legislator yet they never have to face the electorate. Is this practice, which is used in many other countries, undemocratic? I don't think so. What is important is that the popularly elected representatives take precedence over the appointees, which is certainly the case in Canada.

Here in Canada we don't directly elect our cabinet either. The point here is cabinet is appointed by an elected leader and can only do what the elected leader permits them to. While the senate would be appointed by elected leaders, they get to stay as senators until 75 meaning they can be there long after the leader who appointed them is defeated.


I think we are in good company in that regard. Both the UK and Canada have governments which are responsive and have generally avoided gridlock between the Houses. Only when an issue is of great importance does the upper house block the will of the Commons and it always allows the blocked legislation to be passed once the issue has been put to the people in a general election. This is not always the case in countries with two elected houses.


Thats why I think we should abolish the senate outright to avoid this problem. There is nothing stopping senators right now from blocking legislation after an election is held, they simply choose not to do it, but they certainly could.

I would also argue that while we have some very good senators, we also have some lousy ones such as the one who spent his whole time in Mexico. Likewise we have some very good MPs in the House of Commons who take their job quite seriously. People such as Ed Broadbent, Ralph Goodale, Joe Clark, and Anne McLellan were all people who I think focused more on doing a good job that just getting re-elected.

9:16 AM  
Blogger Monkey Loves to Fight said...

Certainly the Accountability Act is flawed, however considering it is a minority government it can be defeated. I also don't mind the idea of an unelected senate being an advisory body, with parliament having the power to override the decision. By making recommendations from a neutral body, the politicians would have a tougher time arguing it is a good bill. Also since senators are political party members, there is no reason why abuses cannot happen.

As for John Snobelen, I don't know much about him, but from what little I've heard, it doesn't sound good. I would say someone like Elizabeth Witmer was one of the better MPs under the Harris government, which is why she was re-elected in 2003 despite the riding going Liberal federally. I've also heard Jim Flaherty is a good MP for his local riding, although he is sure a bad one for everyone else when you consider some of his ideas such as jailing homeless.

11:28 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Senate Reform? Heck yes! In fact I wrote a poem watching the old boys plunk quarters at the Hull Casino on Friday night

He was wearin his best pair of loafers

A lifetime as a government gofer

He wheezes and laughs at his political gaffes

A Senators Life for Me!

His back is all creaky

His date is all freaky

Your language no speekee

A Senators Life for Me!

You paid for his car and his haircut

His loud shirt is screaming

No schoolin for him, he's never been slim

The look in his eyes says he's dreaming

A Senators Life for Me!


His driver is waiting all night

His boss gets into a fight

The cops they arrive, like bees in the hive

A Senators Life for Me!

The papers report a minor affair of honour

A brutish guy was upon her

He pulled them apart, not very smart

She broke her fist on his jaw

A Senators Life for Me!

Now you're buying him dentures

He gets abuse by back benchers

But the joke is on them

He aint one of them

It's a Senators life for meeeeeeee! :)

5:34 AM  

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